Throughout 2023 we had the privilege of interviewing some really smart people on the RealTime Cyber Podcast; a cybersecurity podcast. Things are proliferating quickly in the cyberspace. Here are some of the most insightful & eye opening quotes that show that:

The Changing Nature of Cybersecurity Law

“I think people are underestimating (regulatory) the most, because we are seeing a dramatic shift in the way regulators are looking at privacy concerns and cybersecurity concerns, and that could be a very bad day, because with a lawsuit you are restricted; why are you suing? What's the cause of action? Here’s discovery. We (your attorney) can narrow that down for you because it's only based on one specific situation and whatever that related discovery is for that situation. With a regulatory issue the government can come in and look at your whole program and audit you. Taking all of those together the landscape is dramatically changing”
-AnnMarie Giblin, Cyber and Privacy Law Attorney, Partner & Co-Chair of Privacy and Cybersecurity Group at Tarter, Krinsky & Drogan LLP

The Adoption of AI in Military

"The (U.S Government) is very cautious about giving any sort of algorithm the ability to pull a trigger or fire a weapon, so they still want to do what is called “human in the loop”, that's where even if (the AI says its identified a target) and the AI reports this back, the human in the the loop can either say agree or disagree, but the AI doesn’t have the ability to fire the weapon."
-Ben Bissantz, Cyptologic Warfare Officer, U.S Navy Reserve, Naval Information Warfare Development Center

The Cyber War the U.S is Losing

“There are no rules when it comes to warfare in cyberspace, really… If cyber warfare doesn’t affect something in the same way that a missile would, not an act of war…our adversaries are coming at us at a level that is below armed conflict, and that is intentional…We need to look at this as these incremental events as the aggregate; that is worse than Pearl Harbor. We have been targeted time and time again, our political structure, our democracy, our national security is being undermined. Our economics, our innovation, our industry is being undermined on a regular basis."
Mike McLaughlin, Co-Chair, Cybersecurity and Data Privacy Practice Group and Principal Policy Advisor, Buchanan Ingersoll & Rooney, Co-Author of Battlefield Cyber

Zero Click Exploits

“The big story in terms of advanced mobile attacks and spyware distribution may not be the obvious ones, it may actually be something much more sinister; which is actors that have access to both networks and have distribution mechanisms that you end up finding spyware on...A Lot of threat intelligence and threat advisory in private cybersecurity, they don’t know where this (Zero Click Exploit) message comes from, it could come from a 3rd party app store it could from from a telegram channel”
-Gary Miller, Mobile Security Researcher, Citizen Lab

Data Privacy

“I think the wild wild west days of massive data collection are beginning to come to an end, but at the same time they (ad tech) have so much data on us already, that they really don’t need a lot more…in reality they are not (listening to us), they have so much data, so many refined data points, it just seems like they’re listening to you, tracking you”
-Ryan Johnson, Data Privacy Attorney & Chief Privacy Officer at Savas

Where Can You Find the RealTime Cyber Podcast?

Our Cybersecurity Podcast can be found on Youtube, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, or any of the major podcast platforms.

**The views presented are those of the guest and do not necessarily represent the views of DoD or its components.**

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Tom Kelly